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very thought-provoking, detailed article.

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A very good and interesting article. Was really good reading.

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Here is another US study that shows there is no correlation between immigration and crime unless it is on the downside. Unfortunately it is about the United States and we prefer to concentrate on Asia or, in a pinch the global situation. Malaysia experienced no immigration crime wave despite massive illegal migration by Indonesians across its borders while authorities largely closed their eyes because of an intention to increase the proportion of ethnic Malay Muslim voters backing what was then the Barisan Nasional. We might note that, as writers and editors, we are not seeking to further any political agendas. We are trying to illuminate the facts about immigration, an obviously touchy subject https://www.themarshallproject.org/2019/05/13/is-there-a-connection-between-undocumented-immigrants-and-crime

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Excellent article, cogent and accurate - which is why the fantasist right whingers will hate it LOL>

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Mass immigration also lowers wages and reduces productivity by providing disincentives to automate low skill jobs. It also reduces the standard of living of the working class and poor by increasing competition for housing and resources and overloads services including transport infrastructure, schools and healthcare etc. The growth in working class wages and living standards from the 1920s onwards was a product of labour movements enabled by reduced immigration providing more bargaining power to workers.

Only fat cats who exploit workers like mass immigration as do champagne socialists and poors suffering from false conciousness.

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LOL Your username checks out. Right trash zealots love to demonise and look down on the 'other' while still exploiting them to make your own lives more comfortable. The playbook of the "populist' (ie lowest common denominator) right-whingers - just spew out any old garbage to appeal to the ignorant with emotions rather than logic or facts LMAO.

BTW It's escaped your tiny attention span (since you obviously didn't even read the article) that there is a huge de-population crisis going on worldwide, with nations being short of millions (and that's not hyperbole) of workers over the next few decades, with labour shortages throughout East Asia, Europe and the Americas.

Personally, I think if MAGA morons want to vote for terminal economic decline, that's great for the rest of us.

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Unfortunately economic literacy takes a back seat to ideology for leftists. Far from contributing to the economy most immigrants especially from the 3rd world are a massive drain on society. As this detailed Dutch study revealed. This is why leftists and their destructive dogma are on the way out in the west.

https://demo-demo.nl/en/

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I'm sure you can make your points without descending into name calling. I've seen plenty of your comments on here in the past and even interacted with you before. You're better than this. And to be honest it's not like Monkey Brains doesn't have a point with what he raised. Human labour will always be cheaper than automation purely because the initial upfront capex is lower and returns are more immediately seen and felt. Like it or not a lot of jobs that are human labour intensive today don't pay as well as they rightly should if you were to rank them in terms of importance to the basic functioning of society without everything descending into putrid anarchy. Only reason why they stay that way is because of policymakers and capitalists having easy access to cheap foreign labour. A demographic sugar rush if you will, and we know too much sugar increases the risk of diabetes.

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This is leftist propaganda.

The FBI, DOJ, DHS, etc. doesn’t classify crimes by citizenship status, AND they reply on self-reporting. Know who does? Texas.

And what does the TX DPS have to say?

Criminality among illegals is quite high, and severely undercounted at the national level.

https://www.dps.texas.gov/section/crime-records/texas-criminal-illegal-alien-data

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LOL Cherry picking, just another fallacy that right trash love to do - it works for your cretinous home base, as they're to stupid and lazy to actually check for themselves.

Unfortunately for 'monkey brains' (what a proud moniker to have, and so accurate!), reality will keep intruding into your little fascist bubble 🤣

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You may display your statistics, which by the way are over 13 years. there is also no comparison with indigenous Texans. and while you may trust Texan statistics, we will stick with the Department of Justice and many other studies. here is another DOJ study.

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics/criminal-noncitizen-statistics

Many studies also show that in-migration is responsible for economic vitality, not disincentives. We will let you look them up. it will give you an education.

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The purpose of a system is what it does. Real wages in the west have gone down since the 1970s while cost of living has gone right up. If mass immigration was good for the economic well being of the population we would see the proof. However we don't because it isn't.

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Right whingers don't want an education, they know they won't like what they find - it'll just refute all their hard won prejudices and confirmation bias.

Education and rednecks have never gone together - that's why the ignorant are such easy pickings for their corrupt overlords - who laugh whilst watching them drink the Kook-Aid 🤣

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"The issue of supposed Islamization is a political issue in both France and the UK" is the most dishonest phrase I have read in years, although the author has shown a consistent lack of journalistic integrity throughout his essay.

What is ironic about Geert Wilders being anti Muslim and part Indonesian? Surely, his exposure to Islam at an early age made him aware of the evil nature of that cult. I suppose it might be considered ironic that the author of this garbage could get all his arguments so wrong, but as he is clearly yet another deluded left winger we should expect nothing less.

To write "numerous studies" validate your assertions without even naming some of those studies is far worse than lazy or sloppy journalism, and exposes a serious character flaw in the author. While I don't expect much that is positive from left wingers, this article is disappointing because if this is the best the editor of two failed publications can manage then I have just read the a sample from a wasted life.

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Well done, the fact you don't understand 'irony' undermines any of the crapulous bile you've just spewed.

As to be expected from right trash morons.

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I have a reasonable understanding of irony, and your insults do not address the question "What is ironic about Geert Wilders being anti Muslim and part Indonesian?"

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With all due respect, you seem to have misinterpreted the sentence on Geert Wilders. It wasn't aimed at his antipathy to Muslims, it was pointing out the fact that his mother was an immigrant to the Netherlands, which might have him more sympathetic to the benefits of immigration. If we worded the sentence to appear to mean otherwise, we apologize.

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Geert Wilders has plenty to say about not wanting more Muslim immigrants, but much less to say about immigration by people who are useful to society. Also, I'm sure Wilders is acutely aware that he is a citizen of one of the most crowded countries on earth, so there really is no more room there. I know that. Wilders knows that. The author of this ode to the joys of unlimited immigration from the world's s***hole countries has yet to figure it out.

Perhaps the author could do a follow up article on the benefits of letting millions of unskilled young Muslim men with a pathological hatred of "western values" migrate to Europe and North America while bypassing the legal immigration infrastructure. Perhaps Pleiades could contribute to this essay.

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Unfortunately the hyperlinks for two of the studies cited in this article were dropped out in editing. We apologize, they are here.

Here is the URL for the US Justice Department study on crime and migration

https://www.ojp.gov/library/publications/comparing-crime-rates-between-undocumented-immigrants-legal-immigrants-and

and here is the URL for the World Bank study on Malaysian migration and crime.

https://elibrary.worldbank.org/doi/10.1093/wber/lhx010

The hyperlink for the German study is in the article if you would care to click on it

We would note that there are many studies going back for decades showing migration has little effect on crime. We suggest you not only look at the three studies mentioned in this article but use Google to look for more if these three do not convince you.

Separately, we have warned you repeatedly that you are free to disagree with our articles, but you are not free to insult either us or our authors. Any more of this and you can find another publication to insult because you will be permanently barred from our pages--Eds.

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Bolshevism has been going back decades, so the age of "studies" that say what you want them to say doesn't mean very much. There is also plenty of real life evidence that completely refutes your arguments. Just take a stroll through any city in Sweden or France and take all the time you want to test out these "studies".

As for the insults, I take it we are absolutely free to call other readers whatever we want. I'm just going by some of the more colourful commentary from the left wing readers.

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