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Patrick's avatar

US and Israel will not pay reparations. And US will not continue the fight indefinitely and will wind down in two weeks. So what will happen is that there will be a tacit acknowledgement that Iran controls the strait and Iran will collect tolls.

That is better than no tanker movements

It is just like Egypt collecting and Panama collecting tolls. The Arabs (Saudis and UAE) can’t complain because they host the American bases that led the attack. If they don’t like it, they can try to attack Iran with their armies made up of fat Bedouins

Forget about unfairness and international rule of law. What is the rule of of law when two countries did a sneak attack take out the leadership of a country during negotiations?

What did FDR say about Japan after Pearl Harbor sneak attack?

anon's avatar

this underplays

a. trump embracing the gulf corruption culture somehow blinded his gulf friends into underestimating his instability. a $1b plane doesnt buy what it used to.

b. the role of israel, who exerted far more influence on trump with minimum bribes.

if you calculate the american military expenditure on behalf of israel, they have outperformed their anti-iran neighbors by >$100b before this is all over.

dfieldman's avatar

So, let me get this straight and luxuriate in the irony.

The 'ëver-strong, fearless" Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, who easily manipulated Trump's son-in-law, Jared, to reveal secrets about his regime and then dispose of certain members, rewarded him with $2 billion. MBS, who then went on to assassinate and dismember Jamal Ahmad Hamza Khashoggi[a] (13 October 1958 – 2 October 2018), is now trembling at his knees and quaking in his boots about what Iran may do to him and his corrupt cronies, is leading the van, urging delusional, demented and distracted US President Donald Trump to continue and intensify military strikes against Iran to finish off the regime.

Obviously, the psychological effect of a mighty, angry, vindictive, and unchecked Iran has been profound. Gulf capitals, long insulated from regional wars and most attractive places for foreign capital, are now very much within the battlespace, with the autocratic sheiks fearing the worst.

Andy Wong's avatar

So Iran is described as basically "too big to fail" here. Is that the only justification for living with an enemy one knows than a hundred one might not, even if the Iranian theocratic state is one explicitly anchored and guided by antisemitism hiding under the guise of "anti-zionism"?

Pleiades's avatar

We've lived with the enemy called Israel for far too long yet the world has persevered in treating the little genocidal, pretend country (that's squatting illegally on Palestinian land) as if it's a superpower.

At some point the US will realise the tail is wagging the dog and will cease funding the repulsive vermin - at which point, good riddance to the hilariously deluded "Chosen ones" LMAO.