| Indian Discontent in Malaysia |
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| Written by Zafar Anjum | |
| Monday, 26 November 2007 | |
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The country’s “third race” airs its grievances
Image from HindRAF
Tensions have been inflamed recently with the accelerated destruction of Hindu temples by the government. Although many have been built without permits on government land, they have been in place for decades. Three have been bulldozed this year to make way for road construction and a housing development and another three are due for demolition over the next few months.
The Kuala Lumpur police set up road blocks for three days in advance of the demonstration and charged the group’s leaders with sedition. As they had on Nov. 10 against the pressure group Bersih calling for election reform, the police confronted an estimated 10,000 Indian demonstrators with water cannon and tear gas. Some police were armed with submachine guns, weapons they rarely carry openly, as helicopters hovered overhead.
This demonstration was notably more aggressive than the Nov. 10 one, which was multiracial and led not only by Bersih, a good-government organization, but three opposition parties. Defying an order that the protest was illegal, the protesters Sunday, many of them swinging motorcycle helmets as weapons, threw cans and bottles. Disobeying an order to disperse, they gathered outside the city’s gleaming Petronas Towers, with police chasing them down side streets. Scores also gathered at the huge, Batu Caves north of Kuala Lumpur, which is filled with Hindu statues and other objects of worship.
The Indians’ presence in Malaysia, however, is much more complicated than that. Migration started in the second half of the 19th century when the British brought Tamils and Telugus from the south of India as indentured laborers, primarily to work on rubber plantations, rail lines and the ports. A second wave, mostly from Northern India, came to man the police force and become civil servants. That included Tamils from Sri Lanka and Indians from Kerala – including the father of former Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad, who has always been somewhat coy about his Indian roots. Yet a third stream came as traders, Anjum writes.
Yet another wave of Indian migration arrived starting in the 1970s, according to Anjum. In particular, as Mahathir pushed the dream of Malaysia as an IT hub, they were sought after to develop the country’s information technology base, with Malaysia formally signing a Memorandum of Understanding with India for manpower recruitment on a contract basis in 2007. Today, Malaysia’s overseas Indian population is the largest outside the United States.
But outside the legions of professionals, the rubber and palm oil plantations of Malaysia’s interior are still home to some of the poorest residents of the country, their health stunted by malnutrition and their lives marked by lack of upward mobility. In 2000, Time Magazine reported that Indians had the lowest share of the nation's corporate wealth: 1.5%, compared to 19.4% for Malays and 38.5% for Chinese. The highest rate of suicide of any community is among Indians. Gangsterism and violent crime is largely associated with Indians. Some 15% of the Indians in the capital are squatters.” While some blame Malaysia’s racial policies as the barrier to Indian social wellbeing, with Malays betting on the country’s affirmative action policy and the Chinese being formidable in commerce and business, others blame the Indians themselves. The Malaysian Indian Congress, the ethnic-based party that represents the Indian minority in the ruling coalition, is widely looked upon as ineffective if not corrupt. Race is the big divide in Malaysia. During his 20 years as prime minister, Mahathir sought to uplift Malays, guaranteeing them a large share of business opportunities. The Chinese, the biggest minority, were supposed to lose their disproportionate share of the country's economy. But the real losers were Indians. Due to their colonial legacy, they are generally seen as providers of cheap labor in plantations and construction sites, their political and social mobility has been thwarted. Amarjit Kaur, professor of Economic History, at the University of New England in Australia, attributes this partly to caste distinctions. She writes in The Encyclopedia of Indian Diaspora: "The underperformance of the Indian working class may be attributed to the fact that Indian workers were drawn from the less favored caste groups. Thus they continue to be weighed down by the low self-esteem that usually characterizes members of groups belonging to the lower castes and is worsened by lack of the interaction between the well-off and the less well-off Indians.... The marginalization of working-class Indians is reflected in their poor performance in business, equity ownership and employment in professional sectors and the civil service. The disadvantaged position of the majority in the Indian community has contributed to a sense of dispossession and disadvantage among many Indians in Malaysia." Sarala Sukumaran, 40, a Malaysian Indian entrepreneur who runs an IT firm, says: ""I know many Indian families who want to get out of Malaysia. There are two main reasons behind the backwardness of Indians. One is that we are a minority here, and two, the politicians who represent us do not promote our cause." Sukumaran is a third generation Malaysian Indian. Her grandparents came to Malaysia in the 1930s to work in the plantations in Penang. “I feel that we are not aggressive enough as a community in terms of unleashing our entrepreneurial potential. That's why our evolution has been very slow. Comparatively, look at the Tamils from Sri Lanka,” she said. “They have a more close-knit community feeling, they help uplift each other and they are certainly doing much better than the Indians." After the racial riots of May 1969, Malaysian leaders emphasized the establishment of a united nation and a national culture transcending ethnic identities. The dominant culture in this set-up is Malay with some elements from other cultures supporting it. Even some new Indians, want to get out. "Being non-bumiputras in Malaysia, we can never settle down here," says Nishant Upadhyay, 30, an instructional designer. "We know that getting a permanent residency is next to impossible so we are looking at opportunities in countries like Singapore and Australia where we can easily settle down and start a family." Many Indian IT professionals have still not gotten over the mistreatment of 300 Indian citizens in March 2003 in Kuala Lumpur, which was widely reported in the Indian press. Security agencies reportedly interrogated them rudely in a search for illegal immigrants, but all the Indians possessed valid residency documents. Subsequently Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, then the deputy prime minister, apologized for the incident. But there are frequent reports of abuse of Indian workers and Bumiputra politics disadvantage Indians in education and work opportunities. Local university seats and scholarships are awarded under a racial quota system, and even after getting a degree, many say that discrimination is commonplace. Indian doctors, for instance, complain that they are often excluded from lists of approved doctors whom civil servants or company employees can patronize. The conversion of rubber plantations to housing estates and golf courses also has displaced plantation workers who have drifted to urban centers. As a result, urban Indian ghettos have emerged and crime has escalated. Many Indians blame government policies for their backwardness, a charge rejected by mainstream politicians. Says Malaysian politician Shahrir Abdul Samad: "The Indian community problems are more than just equity. Most of their problems are social problems, such as gangsterism. I admit Indians are among the poorest in this country, but their participation and achievements in many other fields are amazing." Indian Malaysians discover themselves in a bind. Most have resigned themselves to their plight while discontent simmers within the community. But how long can Malaysia afford to allow 8 percent of its population to feel alienated?
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sudah lah
written by india? , August 10, 2008
We can’t run from the real situation. Time has changed but it is not the reason for us to forget the past. Look back how hard our ancestor regains the independence. How the native sacrifice their only pride and share it with others. And now... we are asking for more and more and even denying their good deeds that they had did to us. Go back lah to your home country and compare it with Malaysia. I’m sure your fate and rights are better and well took care of in Malaysia. Plus, there is no perfect government in the world. There is up and down. I can’t see any other parties or government that stable enough to run Malaysia like it is today. Not an opinions but it is a fact.
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Political cheats
written by kevin , December 07, 2007
Nothing much to say bout Malaysia and its goverment,all i can say is the law are not equal to every single person as money and power talks to law.The law are created as per the wish of the ruled goverment and its leaders.Its really fascinating to know Malaysia and its Law and Order cause it keep on changing from race to race.Even a supreme judge will get confused if they read the Malaysian Law and Order.The changes wont happen in malaysia unless the people made the changes after all this years....
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Reformasi
written by Senator , December 04, 2007
di mana parti politik kaum india yg memperjuangkan masa depan kaum india? kalau rasa MIC dah tak berguna lagi kenapa HINDRAF tak tubuh kan parti baru untuk kaum india dalam pilihanraya akan datang. Ini negara demokrasi. Kalau nak memperjuangkan martabat kaum india gunakan saluran politik yg ada di malaysia. Bertanding dalam pilihanraya. Bukan nya dengan mengadakan tunjuk perasaan. Dengan tunjuk perasaan begitu boleh kah dapat mengubah nasib kaum india? Atau hanya menjatuh kan martabat kaum india sendiri.
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Cuba fikirkan la.... Jangan nak salahkan orang lain.... Salahkan parti politik yg mewakili kaum india di parlimen.. Peruntukan diberi oleh kerajaan untuk pembangunan kaum india tapi mana semua pembangunan tersebut pergi?!!! Sekadar pendapat... report abuse
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All we want is equality
written by nowinnofee , December 03, 2007
Mr Khairul, obviously you must be one of those who owns pool of luxury cars and a wonderful house, deny it all you may. I am currently laughing at your poor defence. Sure the Astro guys is one of the richest..why..he is one of the best buddy of Mahathir..
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Look...the poor people of your race became rich overnight...they were called the felda settlers...oh my...i am sure your memory feigns ignore now...tell me..do you have any indians who were given that luxury of being rich ovenight. it is a condition that every housing estate must have a mosque..but i guess it is not a condition that every housing estate must have other forms of worship for other races? Is that what you call democarcy? It is sad sad sad....and no..mr smith..we dont want it all...we are asking for equality..tell me mr smith...you have to be there to understand the pain that we non malays/muslems go through. at form five, knowing that your malay friends who have scored grade 3 get sent to foreign university to study some degree or other , when we who have scored grade one and grade two..pray and hope that we get a place in a good school for form 6. You are clearly an UMNO person or whom have benefitted tremendously from it. If Malaysia does not want the brain drain to occur..then change yourself I say to Pak Lah. Let us not talk about MIC and the presiden...they may have done something but clearly insufficient. Tell that president to get people who are not yes man to him and his son's plans. report abuse
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The Indian Challenge
written by In God We Trust , December 03, 2007
I agree with Machin. Our Prime Minister must seize the moment and set the path for true integration and give real meaning to MALAYSIA TRULY ASIA.
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Having said that, I appeal to the Indian community to also do some soul searching. All of us have come on this journey since MERDEKA and we must fine tune our aims and goals to ensure peace and prosperity is passed on as a Baton to the future generations. For the Indians, the issue of Temple demolishing seems to have caused the CUP TO BOIL OVER. Well, Pak Lah, first off, issue a directive to stop all the demolishing as a sign of goodwill. Second, start a dialogue from within the appropriate Ministry (not MIC) to work on a long term plan to resolve this issue. Religous tolerance is the root of our existence. Let not the SNAKES in our community use this to tear us apart. As for the Indian community, accept that temples built in the past has in most cases not kept up with the demographic spread of the indian race. Work on a plan to consolidate these temples in a structured manner to serve the majority. This way we can have QUALITY as opposed to QUANTITY. In most cases, temples are used to further the political (local politics that is) of individuals and in many cases to feed their egos. Please, stop this nonsense. Pak Lah must on the other hand be ready to work closely with the Indians to make this happen. Afterall, you are PM for all Malaysians and not just for UMNO. So, Indians, change your mindset;give some to gain more in the long run. Of course, all this will only work if PAK LAH rises to the challenge as Machin expressed. OVer to you Pak Lah. God bless Malaysia report abuse
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The Common Issues and Potential Outcome
written by Machin , December 03, 2007
The 'uprising' by Hindraf must be seen and acted upon by Pak Lah as a symptom of a far greater problem facing the country. Most importantly, whilst Hindraf has 'compartmentalized' this as an INDIAN problem, let not the authorities be blind-sided; anyone who has lived and worked in Malaysia will tell you that there is a groundswell of discontent amongst all races:
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1) The MALAYS who stand-up to UMNO and its ways are sidelined and they are drifting into a potentially potent force against the ruling elites. Mind you Pak Lah, Hindraf's challenge (if you can it that) is only a storm in the teacup when the real tsunami comes around within the Malays who WILL challenge the inequality of UMNO politics in the next election. 2) The Chinese are generally seen to be a contented lot; however, truth is, most of their frustrations are boiling over behind closed doors in meetings within and without MCA. Most look at MCA as the Devil kowtowing to UMNO to further the personal interest of powerful elites within the party. The next general election will be where the chinese will speak. Make no mistake Pak Lah; your troubles are far greater than what Hindraf has surfaced. 3)MIC is really no different from MCA. They too are a party that has succumbed to the 'unity' within BARISAN at all cost syndrome. You can only sweep so much under the carpet; sooner or later someone is going to pick the carpet up to check for the rotten smell emanating and that seems to have already happened. Whilst all seem to be leading to gloom and doom, Pak Lah must view this as an opportunistic moment for him to stamp his personal style of FAIR politics. He must be bold enough to display fairness and do so without fear or favor. Unifying the problem is the only way for him to satisfy every one of the races; unity is not only about good times; more importantly there is a need to push the unity button when disparity has obviously set-in. Pak Lah MUST seize the moment and rise above UMNO politics to be the true father of this nation. IT IS YOUR MOMENT PAK LAH. ISA is not the answer. The answer is in doing the right thing for ALL Malaysians. BRING THE PEOPLE TOGETHER: ONLY YOU CAN DO THIS.... report abuse
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senang-senang je
written by ahah245 , December 01, 2007
abihlah negara kita diporakperandakan oleh bangsa bangsa kita sendiri. kan Tuhan kata selagi kita tak ubah nasib kita sendiri selagi itulah kita ni tak maju. dgn usaha majmuk kita saya pasti satu negara yg aman dan damai sebelumnya pasti boleh memberikan kebaikkan kepada semua bangsa.
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hmmm. ada melayu yg maju, ramai jugakle yg tak maju. ramai cina yg maju, ada juga sy tgk minta sedekah, yg sy nampak dgn mata dan dgr guna telinga org india lah yg 50% 50%. ramai yg maju, ramai jugaklah yg tak maju. yg maju guna akal yg tak maju suka hidup sederhanalah tu. ni yg porakperandakan negara mesti yg dah hampir maju dan mula tamakkan kuasa dan duit le tu. fikirlah nasib orang india yg ingin hidup aman dan damai. kbykkan etnik kita dah kahwin campur. kita kan dah bersatu hari dan jiwa. yang tak puas cari jalan yg baik utk menyelesaikan masaalah. tahun ni adalah tahun yag amat penting untuk Malaysia tanah tumpah darah kita. Tahun Melawat Malaysia, orang kuar masuk. yg dpt nama buruk adalah tanggungan semua. jgn asyik nak migrat ke negara org. masalah diri adalah masaalh negara. jadi kita kena cari jalan baik utk tetakpan diri kita kat malaysia. tgk tu yg kuar ke negara org pun orgyang ada duit jugak. melayu tak kuar negara sgt. cina pun lbh krg sama, ygkuar org india je yg byk, jadi yg tggal mestilah yg miskin majoritinye. mana le nak nampak sgt org india maju. asyik asyik yg dah belajar semua tak nak duduk negara sendiri. kalu nak tunjuk cintakan Malaysia, jgn kuar pi duduk Singapura ke Australia ke. dah tu mesti kerajaan pun tgk kebaikkan org India. lagipun kita ada ahli politik india, cina, melayu. hak asasi masing masing sebenornye terjago tu. cuma kita tak beri sokongan yg padu. asyik nak ikut rasukkan parti pembangkang ni dah salah tu. esok die org yg memerintah negara kita, apa ade kepastian yg mereka akan jadikan/berikan kaum2 di neagara ini satu kebaikkan ke? jgn salah langkah dan berfikir cuma nak keuntungan segelintir pihak je. kiat di era globalisasi. negara kita dicemburui oleh anasir2 yg tidak mahu mlihat negar kita aman dan makmur. lihat lah apa yg sedang belaku diluar. belajar lah oleh mu wahai kaum kaum yg disayangi di Malaysia. jgn mengampu pihak yg tidak dpt memberikan keamanan. kita rajin , kita majukan diri sendiri. jangan tanya apa yang negara dapat lakukan kepada kita, tanyalah apa yang kita dapat lakukan untuk negara. kita kerja kuat untuk negara, dan diri sendiri. kalau kita tak tolong kerajaan, siapa lagi. Maju Melayu, Maju Cina, MAju India, Maju Semua Kaum. Jgn asing kan dirimu kerana kaum, berpadulah, berkongsilah dan lihatlah kelebihan yang akan diberikan oleh tanah pijak kakimu ini. Kamu pasti tidak akan menyesal. Cuba fikirkan dahulu, Tuhan berikan kita otak untuk berfikir, fikirlah, jgn singkatkan mindamu untuk berfikir. Fikir dan lihatlah kamu akan dpt bantuan yg cukup berkuasa ini. Di setiap sudut ada keajaiban, angin, udara, air, api, tanah. Negara Malaysia adalah negara yg cukup memberikan kebaikkan antara negara negara lain di muka bumi ini. jangan menginsafi dirimu nanti kerana kesilapan dirimu sendiri. Thai Manne Vanakkum report abuse
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Malaysia needs to really change its ways
written by A concerned Indian , November 30, 2007
This is being watched in India with dismay. Having a population that is only 7-8% out of a country's total population go berserk says something about their desperation. Believe me, this is something us Indians in India know well about. That said, it is unforgiveable for the Indian community to not have enjoyed in the fruits of Malaysia's devlopment as a nation. The vast majority of Indians in Malaysia are poor, and their living conditions are in many respects are not too different from the poor in neighboring Indonesia or even in India itself! That really goes to show that a country that is 3 to 4 times richer (than Indonesia or India) has abjectly failed to uplift its own poor simply as a matter of race. Now that is not just a failure of policy and politics, but a failure of humanism itself. If the GoM's position on Indians' dissatisfaction takes a purely 'law& order' turn without any adjustments in its socio-economic policies and priorities, then I'm afraid the situation is going to get much worse. The people who will be bearing the brunt of GoM's possibly hardening stance, after having waited for so long, and after their seeing their relative social position slide even further, do not have much to lose. And I would predict that this situation could get much, much worse before it gets better.
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Malaysia also needs to learn from the exaples of neighboring Singapore or more distant USA or UK, where Indians have done well. In this respect, integrating Indians (Tamils, SriLankans, new IT migrants, etc) and not alienating them would serve Malaysia well if it truly aspires to move ahead in IT and several other service sectors. The alternative could be a slide back to the 1969 type tensions and bloodshed. report abuse
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written by Liang1a , November 30, 2007
Malays keep saying that special rights for the Malays don't affect the non-Malays negatively. If this were true, then why have these special rights for the Malays? Why not just re-institute equal rights as the original Malaysian constitution were written? The truth is the Chinese and the Indians have been squeezed to a very small fraction to what they could have achieved under full equality. Furthermore, the special rights for the Malays haven't benefited all Malays but have benefitted only the top few percents of politically connected Malays who use corruption to get filthy rich. Most of the Malays have suffered through the lack of economic opportunities.
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Singapore Malays are some 5 times richer than the Malaysian Malays. This means that the mismanagement of Malaysian economy under the Malays have cost the average Malays tens of thousands of ringgits every year in lost economic opportunities. In the end, full equality will benefit all, especially the average Malays themselves. This is why many smart Malays are fed up with the economic and social sickness Malaysia has become. But the non-Malays and the moderate Malays much united to form an effective political opposition before they can change Malaysia for the better. And that would take a lot of political maturity. report abuse
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Let the pus out before healing can happen
written by Antares , November 29, 2007
It's a positive thing that genuine grievances are finally spilling onto the streets where spin-doctors can't gloss them over. What's sad is that incumbent leaders seem to suffer from an excess of arrogance and an abysmal lack of wisdom. Instead of reading the writing on the wall, they decree that graffiti is a threat to national security and threaten street artists with the ISA. Malaysia is indeed a country rich in resources - natural and human - but conspicuously poor in mature, wise and honest leaders. It doesn't require a very high IQ to realize that our racial and cultural diversity is our most valuable asset. It only becomes a liability in the insecure and myopic eyes of frogs trapped under coconut shells of narrow-minded jingoism and religious hypocrisy. But the Times they are a-changing and we welcome a young generation of leaders with true vision and integrity who know that unanimity isn't unity - and that diversity is the key to greater riches for all. Meanwhile, methinks Malaysia urgently needs to be dewormed of parasitic politicians who only know how to play the ethnic supremacy card.
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every problem there is a solution
written by u know who.... , November 29, 2007
I believe that the leaders of our government will deal this issue in a proffesional manner by bringing it to a discussion with all relevant parties for the peace and harmony of this country.I hope that the leaders of this country will contribute the needs of the indians of this country. We are one family consists of Malays,Chinese and Indians , we (indians) are not asking more but an equal food so that we can grow like the others and contribute to the family like the others as well. A leader of the family would not be happy if one kid falls sick due to lack of food ,so the head of the family should assure that equall food is shared with all the kids.To the leaders (head of the family)"Give to others and God will give to you. The measure that you use on others is the one God will use on you""Love is the only capable force which can transform an enemy into a friend"
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written by Budakcina Malaysia , November 29, 2007
The root of the problem is education, most of those poor Indians or low income group indians were from Tamil school. Most of those successful lawyers and doctors are from SK schools.
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Tamil schools, like those communist chinese schools been the racist schools, separated those Indians and Chinese to themselves, their students seldom interact with other races of Malaysia. Most of them from tamil schools also not able to read and write proper English or BM that caused them not able to get a decent employment and they ended up into vice or filling up the number of low income group, like those malaysian chinese from communist schools. PS: chinese school also known as communist school in report abuse
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written by Budakcina Malaysia , November 29, 2007
The root of the problem is education, most of those poor Indian or low income group are from tamil school. Most of those successful lawyers and doctors are from SK schools.
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Tamil schools, like those communist chinese schools been the racist schools, separated those Indians and Chinese to themselves, their students seldom interact with other races of Malaysia. Most of them from tamil schools also not able to read and write proper english or BM that caused them not able to get a decent employment and they ended up into vice or filling up the number of low income group, like those malaysian chinese from communist schools students. PS: chinese school also known as communist school in Malaysia. report abuse
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RACISM DISGUSTS ME
written by Laura A , November 28, 2007
Mr Khairul, u must certainly must be an UMNO man to say this! No doubt you are one of those who receives the 'special treatment' from the corrupted and racist Malaysian government! Look around you or at least read ALL of the global news & blogs, not just the Malaysian-owned newspapers. Time has changed, one cant afford to remain ignorant or stay in denial anymore, you know...
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written by Khairul , November 28, 2007
It is not fair to blame the government of Malaysia for marginalising Indian accent in Malaysia. In fact it is not true at all. This is evident in the number of successful indian in Malaysia. Ananda krishnan, the country's 2nd richest man is an indian. Top lawyers in this country are of indian accent. Besides that, the government has never denied indian accent of their rights to practise their own culture and hinduism. Tamil schools are still exist and received allocations from the government. Let us be practical and not emotional when it comes to highlighting grievances.
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written by A robert , November 27, 2007
The Malaysian Government is a Racist Government. It is there only for the expressed purpose of serving the Bumiputras. The ISA is used whenever views are expressed against the Government. The MIC leader, Samy Vellu, is a disaster for the Malaysian Indians. He is filthy rich and it is time for this gutless man to go. The World Community should act and demand that all citizens be granted equal opportunities and true democracy to be restored. The destruction of Hindu temples by the government forces is Barbaric and intimidating. This inappropriate behaviour has no place in a civilised world.
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Racist Malaysia
written by R Lawson , November 27, 2007
During the past 30 years I have spent much of my time in Malaysia. That the Indian population is not treated fairly is no surprise. Malaysia is a racist nation. Its policies concerning economics, education, hiring, medical coverage, etc., are racially biased. The bias is not so much to punish the Indian population but to allow the Malay population to hold their own with the Chinese. The Malays need the help of government intervention to compete. The government needs a grateful Malay population to keep them in power. The Indian population is lost in the shuffle.
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Born Loser
written by Hantu Laut , November 26, 2007
The Indian problems in Malaysia are mostly self-inflicted.The caste system in India, although outlawed a long time ago, are still very much alive, in a milder form.Those whose forefathers came as indentured labourers are still stigmatise and chose to stay at the lowest rung of the Indian society.Some have came out and went on to become successful individuals but most are still in the eggshell.The Jaffnese or Sri Lankan Tamils don't have the problem that plagued the Indian Tamils.Many have become successful.As Lee Kuan Yew once said “In terms of numbers, the Ceylonese, like the Eurasians, are among the smallest of our various communities. Yet in terms of achievements and contributions to the growth and development of the modern Singapore and Malaysia they have done more than warranted by their numbers".
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With 150 years history the Tamils in Malaysia hadn't evolved partly of their own doing and the other reason is they have useless and selfish leaders, whose only interest is to look after themselves. Not forgetting most early Chinese who came to this part of the world came as coolies. report abuse
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WAKE UP!
written by Bai , November 26, 2007
Hey Smith! Which part of the world are you from anyway?? If you are not from M'sia, I would like to offer you a free tour of the country. Why don't you see it for yourself the sufferings of the Indians. Perhaps then you can withdraw your deregatory statement against them. Deal? However, should you be a M'sian and especially an Indian, then I'd say 'shame on you for being ignorant'! Maybe you should sharpen your history knowledge dude!
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why indians are marganalized
written by ravin , November 26, 2007
Every marginalized society has some rich and the rich always become rich. In Malaysian Indian case we are almost 70% were poor and 30% to 20 were too poor without proper house , job and education due to financial ( control by Chinese) and political ( control by Malay). Imagine Malay always will get 10% discount for any house they buy. This is a condition impose by government, even though the Malay is rich or poor. Chinese always recruit person who can talk Chinese but they are forced to recruit Malay (special privilege) by government. The Indian must be extremely good in order to get any professional job. That’s the reason why so many Indian professionals become doctors, lawyer and engineers. Profession that required skill rather than race or language skill. Past 150 years Malaysia Indian been forced out from estate in a name of development without compensation. How do you will feel suddenly after 50 yr some one say evacuate your house we sold the estate and you have to find a new place without any compensation? The next day they stat to demolished the house, temple and school that belong to them. This is still happening today. I know this because I am from such a place and i am not a professional by job.
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wut the hell
written by citizen , November 26, 2007
I dun see any reason for malaysian gov to demolishing temple in a area where there is no signs of development seen, more over it's deep in a village housing area. dun have have a better job thn demolishing temples. wut will happen when same thing happen to mosques n surau? and they call themself democratic.No shame
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Understanding the Ruling Malay Muslim
written by Not A Dhimmi , November 26, 2007
To Understand the Ruling Malay Muslim on why they will never discard the racial policies of the bumis.
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Read this Article to get a better perspective. http://www.dhimmitude.org/ Sad to say it's very wide spread in every muslim majority country report abuse
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its not Hindu Action Force
written by palms , November 26, 2007
The organisation's name is Hindu Rights' Action Force (HindRAF). The author of this article should get his facts correct. This itself shows how well the author has got to understand the plight of the marginalised Malaysian Indians. I'm sure he wouldn't know the objective of this rally either. Malays will Never understand the plight of other races/tribes.
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OPEN YOUR EYES
written by Molly , November 26, 2007
Well, the caste system is practised only in India, not in Malaysia. The few Malaysian Indians that are successful are in fact the M'sian government's cronies. They made it big by doing favours for the political parties. Hence its easier for them to obtain licences to start businesses therefore they garner wealth easily. While the majority of INdians in Malaysia are marginalised and treated like 3rd class citizens. They fought for independence side by side with the Chinese & the Malays, however, the Indians' sacrifices have been forgotten. Many are struggling to make ends meet and remain poor because they are not given opportunities in employment, higher education, businesses, etc. Some of their condition are similar to those living in Sierra Leon, trust me, its that bad...
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They Want It All
written by A Smith , November 26, 2007
"...they occupy the bottom rung of modern society at the same time their numbers are over-represented in medicine, the law, civil service, the police and information technology..." Those better educated and professional Indians are actually faring better than many other minority races in the country. Somehow, they too have benefitted tremendously from the Government's affirmative (racist) policies towards the Malays. However, their community as a whole remains uncontented. Partly because of caste distinctions, the richer Indians have neglected their poorer Indians, while at same time morally supporting them to demand the Government to give them special preferences in view of their poverty. This is the shrewdest strategy of an ethnic community to have it all for themselves.
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You question them they say their can be happy as long as they the bottle and survey has proven that an indijuval can consume at the lowest average of RM300.00 per month and at higher level it could be RM 1000.00 above.
Why are we waste our money to get sick later and have no money for medical bills. Every Indian know the proverb "Kudi kuyai kedukkum" that is drinks will distroy your living and it rhymes well in Tamil. We see school boys are consuming and adults are watching but they cannot control because they too are in line with them.
But the if learned begin to think a bit before purchasing a bottle that they are only contributing to the well being of the breweries and illicit manufactures and what we get in return is sickness,broken homes,poverty,road accidents and gang fights killing each other.
Is the type of returns we want as Indians. Let us open ourself and see if the RM300 is put to some good things it would give better returns such as our children could be put in proper schools,colleges and universities. This will ungrade our Indian community. I call upon all Indian Enterpurenas to come forward to look into this matter and do a ficiable study to stop this drinking habits. Why support a beer company which never returns to the Indians in form of scholarships to poor Indians students, for medical treatments or meet their daily needs. So it is time we think about this seriously on how we can call up these companies to contribute for the betterment of the Indian community which makes them Trillionaires and we die as a puper leaving broken up families who will have no avenue but to become hard core criminals. Who is the cause ? Sit down and think and search your hearts how we have let our lives rule by such alcoholic producers and at our expense they are sleeping in posh bunglows when we are still in the slums.
The answer is within us if that kind of money been well managed we too can live to the standards of the other in this nations. We can rise up as strong bussiness man as we have the drive and ego which was always drained out of the bottle.