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Written by Paul Mozur   
Thursday, 15 October 2009
ImageReasons behind the rising tensions that sparked Xinjiang riots in July

Earlier this week, courts in Xinjiang sentenced six men to death and a seventh to life imprisonment for murder, arson and robbery during riots that swept the region in early July, leaving nearly 200 persons dead. Paul Mozur, a Taiwan-based correspondent, traveled through the area shortly after the riots. This is the second of a three-part report which started Wednesday.

See also:

A Tourist in a Troubled Land
Xinjiang's Bleached Bones and Turquoise Tombs


Kashgar's old city can be deceiving. Its airy, mud-brick courtyard houses show the dilapidation of their 400-year history, but many abodes are in fact quite comfortable. Still, unpatched cracks mark the outside of many walls and Spartan comforts are the rule. The Chinese government has cleverly cashed in on this perception to bulldoze whole blocks of the old city under the pretense of enhancing living conditions and providing earthquake-safe housing for the Uighurs.

But the stucco flaking from new apartment blocks outside the city where many have been or will be moved inspires little confidence in a policy many analysts have said is designed to continue to uproot Uighur culture and tighten security. Though it was unclear how severe an earthquake Merhum's house would survive, its luxuriant interior outdid the dim, stained hotel rooms that sit in unthreatened buildings in the city's Han quarter.

For now Merhum is not worried about his house, which is well away from the areas being razed. After catching my attention as I walked by the open entrance to his courtyard, he motioned me inside, opening a plain wooden door to reveal a room stippled with niches holding golden-framed, black-and-white photos, lushly colored pillows, copper teapots and other elegantly displayed baubles. Unmistakable on a minaret-shaped pillar in the center of the room were matching East Turkestan symbols, a crescent moon cradling a star. I pointed questioningly.

"East Turkestan," he nodded and assented to a photo.

Appropriated from the flag of the short-lived 1933-34 first East Turkestan Republic, the symbol is strictly forbidden in Xinjiang and is alleged to be the emblem of pro-independence "separatist" groups. Given that troops were routinely checking tourist cameras for pictures of sensitive most wanted signs and troop installations, allowing me to take a picture was about as risky as distributing Tank Man photos in Tiananmen Square. As I was about to press him about his behavior, his daughter finally emerged in response to earlier shouts up to the second floor. Unlike Merhum, she was unhappy and curtly refused to help translate for him.

For a few brief minutes of muffled argument the two disappeared from the room, when he returned he apologized in his halting Mandarin, "she does not want me to talk to foreigners. I do not normally invite guests like you into my home, but the situation is just so bad right now, we must speak out." As Merhum explained that he was a retired carpenter in his late 50s, his daughter dutifully but coldly returned to present the dastarkhan, or tablecloth, on which fruit, in my case nearly a full watermelon, is put out for guests to eat. After she parted he sternly asked: "Do people in the West know about our problems here? Do they know about the situation? You must tell them when you go back."

"I've seen too many people die, at least 50,000 are dead or in prison since the July 5th riots. We Uighurs are good to people who are good to us, but to those who wrong us," he broke off, "but we only have knives, if we had guns we could fight them." Although a number of Uighurs I spoke with reported this 50,000 statistic, most reliable sources estimate Uighur detentions since the riots between 1,000 and 2,000. But Merhum was insistent about his numbers, claiming to have heard them from a Uighur policeman.

When I asked where else he obtained information over the past months he drew close and mischievously motioned at the floor. "I have a radio I use to get the news, but I have to keep it hidden from the police," he replied, likely referring to the extra antennas or pieces of tin required to receive signals from media sources like Radio Free Asia, a U.S. government-run Uighur news service whose broadcasts are blocked in China. During our conversation Merhum had grown more emotional and finally fighting back tears he shook his head: "Many of my friends have been arrested, too many have died, and America, Germany, England what can they do? We have no hope."

As I stepped out from the cool darkness of his house to the blinding alley, he told me: "Keep the photo and show it to people abroad, they need to know about what is happening here." Merhum was not alone in his vocal denunciation of China, nor was he the first to admit he didn’t normally speak out. Shop owners, taxi drivers, tour guides and even a few state employees made clear in ferocious language their disgust with the current situation, often within earshot of dozens of passersby. When a bus I took from Hotan to Urumqi across the Takalamakan was stopped on the desert's edge for six hours until dawn, several men openly cursed the government to me as they clustered in a group, slurping down instant noodles and joking through the night.

On the other hand the large and undisguised presence of the People's Liberation Army at almost every cultural site did little to intimidate Uighurs. One old man, with the aid of his grandson for translator bristled at soldiers drilling in front of a new theater dedicated to Uighur Mukam music. "They're here to intimidate us," he shook, "but they're scared too, they know that we will not back down." When I asked him about the history museum next to the theater and how Chinese official history differed from his own understanding of it, he mounted his pedicart and laughed, "anything I say about that would be separatist," and without waiting for an answer he rode away with his grandson perched in the back.

That this strategy of occupying cultural spaces inflames as much as it intimidates seems to have eluded the authorities. In Urumqi a Uighur cab driver who had grown irate when he saw a public bus being searched by PLA grew angrier, when arriving at the Xinjiang Provincial Museum, he saw troops drilling in front. Thankfully for his sake he was long gone when later in the afternoon, due to rain, the troops took shelter inside the museum. While my bottle of water had to be disposed before entering, teargas canisters and dagger bayonets were blithely displayed as troops clogged the facilities and crowded around the exhibits - including the Beauty of Loulan a 3,000-year-old mummy whose long nose has been (against all scientific evidence) claimed by Uighurs as proof of their Indo-European roots and originary presence in the region.

In Hotan's central square in front of its anatomically questionable statue that shows a thick and tall Mao bending slightly to shake the hand of a short and emaciated Uighur, PLA troops rehearsed Kung Fu routines, their shouts echoing several blocks away. Even the signs the provincial government put up were more provocative than informative. Warnings of severe prison sentences for those who falsely reported being attacked by needles rang false beneath most-wanted signs that listed only a few Han fugitives amongst dozens of Uighurs. The only noticeable difference between Urumqi before the Han protests and after were more troops. Where about 30 troop transport trucks had sat in the city's People's Square before, after there were more than 60. Formerly empty corners were marked by new attachments of soldiers standing stolidly behind sand-bag barricades.

As the Chinese government not only continues, but intensifies the policies that have left it on edge for several months, more tragic flare-ups like July 5th will be the inevitable result. Han and the Uighurs alike are vexed and spooked. And when ragtag lines of Uighur and Han Chinese Militia, many of whom are sparsely trained State Owned Enterprise employees, patrol the streets of Urumqi with truncheons, one gets the distinctive feel that the government is smoking too close to the dynamite, and no significant change in policy must represent an at best complacent and at worst apathetic lack of executive imagination.

See also:

A Tourist in a Troubled Land
Xinjiang's Bleached Bones and Turquoise Tombs


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the people, "an unimportant peron" vs. the authority, “an important person”
written by Proud Atayal , October 26, 2009
The author’s prudent and diary style enables me to gain some ideas of the conflicts between the Han and the Uighur in Xinjiang. Both have fear for the conflicts. Anyway, both are “an unimportant person” and are innocent enough, so that they hurt each other carelessly.

The authority, “an important person”, consciously indulges himself in looking on tearing of the sort, instead of teaching his people to respect different cultures in his country. Tearing continues, so that some of us, the readers, employ word violence against each other. Bloodthirty authority. Most of us fall into the trap he sets. Bloodthirty authority likes to hear extremely-opposite voices, but not neutral voices, i.e. the ones from some of us or from the author. Bloodthirty authority always expects any conflicts. The bloodthirty authority finally will be the only one beneficiary from the conflicts. His strategy. The sum: the authority is unqualified, in this respect.

I live in Taiwan. China is just like the “Big Brother” who makes threatens against Taiwan when “he” feels unhappy. His hobby. Some politicos in Taiwan feel scared and then console the “Big Brother”. I really disdain them, though able to understand them. I’m a minority in Taiwan. From my point of view, Taiwan is not the Han’s, neither the China’s. Taiwan belongs to the aboriginal people and is also the homeland of the Austronesian people. But, the Han’s Big Brother doesn’t tell his people the common sense. Should I say all Hans in Taiwan go back to the Mainland? Or, “China, please take your people home!” I have many Han friends. We, the aborigines, and the Han, in the island don’t have conflict like before; each has his own life. In this respect, Taiwan government is qualified.

However, to be honest, it is not easy for an aborigine to survive among the majority Han. Would you spend time on trying to understand a person whom you are unfamiliar with? It is human nature. But how lucky I am! I was born in a “rich” family, compared with most aborigines. I am not “lazy”, too, so that I can have more opportunities to strengthen myself and then to compete with the Han. Moreover, I am so greedy that I often remind myself that laziness will ruin me. But as for most of aborigines, they are content with very little. It is the characteristic of an ethnic group. And, most importantly, they are willing to share their belongings. Naivete ruins them. Taiwan or capitalism doesn’t allow naivete of the sort to survive. But, municipality will keep the naivete alive. Our cultures and languages will then be maintained. (How ridiculous! I have to “purchase” my mother tongue. Petty cash for some poor elders.) In this respect, Taiwan government is really unqualified. So, the authority is the only enemy we, the aborigines, must fight against. Not the unimportant persons.
Same to the case in Xinjiang.

I don’t know too much about the Western. But some of them, the ones who seize political powers in particular, are indeed arrogant.

We are not stupid but should learn to be a smart and mature reader.

"Politics” should learn to hear alternative voices, though it is hard for IT.

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Eithopia demand food aids
written by Mamakthir , October 23, 2009
The Western liberal s**ts like to forment troubles in foreign land especially one which they see as strategic competitors. The liberal s**ts like to flaunt their human rights credentials whenever they address to what they considered an inferior culture like the Oriental culture. They have shrewdly stayed away from demanding human rights issues like hunger now plaguing Eithopia or human migrant wretchery in civilised Europe.
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Oi, oi, Uighurkha!
written by Rabid Burns , October 23, 2009
What exactly is wrong with a few 'Han' Chinese lording it over the Uighurs, the land is not the Uighurs anyway! The Brits never complained about the Jerries in the form of the Sax-Gothas ruling them, neither the Hongkongwongs the Scottish who ran Hongkong like backstreet Glasgow with their blatant corruption, nepotism, barbarism in the forms of bleeding bagpipes, tartan skirts, fowl haggis, and subservience to their Pommie overlords - how many journos rant about Scottish independence and saving their distilleries all owned by the French and the Japanese!

If 'the Chinese' were not so nice I would have recommended them send all their convicts to the US of A, Ozland, NZ and even Britland, go to these countries, get rid of the damned natives, breed fast and then leave nothing to its past inhabitants or even rightful owners save a few 'reservations' for nuclear testing! Why hear a few Uighur moan like Gurkha doormen who almost lost their lives fighting for a country that does not even want to give them a right of residence. Unleash Purdy on them I says if China wants to deport any Uighurs to the Chagos where no journos want to report about the fate of the islanders deposed because Britland gave their homeland to the Yanks for nuclear testing!

I am glad the Chinese no longer do nuclear testing in Xinjiang. That is because there is too much of their ('Han') minerals deposited in the soil there. Last I heard there were even some colonists in the form of tartan-wearing big-nosed non-Hans found buried there. That surely must mean the Glaswegians were the first inhabitants in the region the Uighurs claim as their's all we need is to send a few cheap-plonk drinking glue-sniffing tartan-wearing Celtic supporters to hidbaaang their way into Urumqi afore ye!

Spare me, ye lass and lassies if you want to take up the cause of the Uighurs! Lest ye forget, most of us here would not give a cable toss to a few Uighurs dying to replace the Albanians who are having it rough in Scotland - or a few lesser Yanks scuba-diving in New Orleans... or a few Gurkhas first into Kosovo and first out of Britland!
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Barbaric Uyghurs
written by Yang Yang , October 22, 2009
If the Uyghurs are unhappy with the government, then they should just protest against the government. But the Uyghurs attacked , injured and killed innocent Hans, and also committed arson and destroyed property. It shows that they are very barbaric and racists, and the trouble makers who were out to incite racial violence and instability deserved the harshest punishment that Chinese laws can dish out.
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Hypocrisy
written by anon_michigan , October 21, 2009
We already know relatively speaking, China is not as free in some aspects as some countries. But China is equal in the sense that this perceived injustice is generally applied equally to all ethnicities in that country. Dressing up the supposed 'oppression' as an injustice Uighurs uniquely suffer is not just irresponsible journalism but propaganda.
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Western s**ts
written by Comrade Mao , October 21, 2009
The minorities in the West like the native Americans, indigeneous Indians, Negros, Gypies, Ozzies aborogines, Maoris were butchered by the White supremacists in the past, but are now left to benign under-developments and neglects by so-called Liberal democrat s**ts.

When China bring developments to its Western regions, the red-eyed liberal democrats cried fouls and wants the minorities to stay backward to preserve their traditions and cultures. The White liberals also make racist remark that China wants to assimilate the minorities despite the fact China has been trying its best to preserve the multi-ethnic China numbering 56 nationalities.
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Xi Jing Ping
written by Comrade Mao , October 21, 2009
As the VP Xi Jing Ping said, the White s**ts like to create troubles for others and forget their own barbarities towards their national minorities.
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Squatters with a short memory
written by Ying Ying , October 21, 2009
The Turks came to squat on Chinese land, and called themselves the Uighurs. After staying too long, they conveniently forgot that XinJiang had always been part and parcel of China. Now they have the audacity to claim that China took their land. And westerners like Bill with no inkling of China's long history is instigating trouble and saying that China is robbing the Uighurs of their land and rights. Actually it is the ungrateful Uighurs who after squatting on Chinese soil, now refuse to integrate into China, and continue to pledge their loyalty to Turkey their original ancestry home. If they wish to be treated like equal citizens then they should pledge loyalty to China, and integrate into China. If they think Turkey is their homeland, then they should go back to Turkey. Aren't all immigrants into the USA asked to prove their proficiency in English, sing the US national anthem, and pledge their loyalty to the USA in order to get their citizenship? SOme even have to serve in the US army and give their lives away fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan to speed up getting their citizenship for themselves and their families. Maybe China should ask the same from the Uighurs if they keep behaving like Turks instead of like Chinese citizens.
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Uncle and Unpeople
written by Uncle Wong , October 20, 2009
China should copy particularly the Brits, treat the untermenschen as 'unpeople' like the Brits! go to http://www.worldpress.org/Europe/2008.cfm
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Buffalo Bill's wild accusation
written by Xiao Loong , October 20, 2009
Wild Buffalo Bill is making all kinds of unsubstantiated accusation about Hans and the Chinese government.

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chinese esporter
written by ben , October 20, 2009
Recently my colleague discovered a website which proposes to connect with Chinese companies.
Has any of you had any feedback about website www.barakkuda.com ?
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chines exporter
written by ben , October 20, 2009
Recently my colleague discovered a website which proposes to connect with Chinese companies.
Has any of you had any feedback about website www.barakkuda.com ?
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written by Bill , October 20, 2009
I often ask Han chinese how they would like it if Uighurs took over their home town, banned their language and religion, refused any Han chinese to contribute politically, refused to hire anyone of Han origin, took their houses without compensation, took their oil, coal, and metals, and ran daily TV shows to 'educate' other Uighurs how 'untrustworthy' Han chinese are, how would they like it? Would they be "loyal" to their new "country"?

If they then sent an ARMY to SHOOT DEAD any Han chinese that don't submit to the Uighur rule, would Han chinese consider themselves "terrorists" for defending themselves with sticks, stones, and whatever makeshift weapons they have?

Japan TRIED to do it unsuccessfully because the USA kicked their arses, and Han chinese are STILL complaining about it and HATE japanese (even though most of them have never even met one before).

"Modernization" doesn't mean too much to people who aren't even allowed to speak freely.

And furthermore, when Han Chinese protest against the government, its OK, but when Uighurs protest, they are "terrorists". If Han Chinese actually had a brain they would unite with Uighurs and Tibetans to overthrow the corrupt regime. When talking with Chinese about corruption and how bad the government is the most common response is "but I can't do anything about it, so why does it matter". Well, here are people that ARE doing something about and risking their lives, and you are standing on the corrupt government's side. Next time your baby dies from tainted baby milk I will be LAUGHING at your stupidity.

GROW A BRAIN!
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chinese esporter
written by ben , October 19, 2009
I am looking for Chinese exporters of Bags and travel goods
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written by Bernhard , October 19, 2009
Turkish Uigurs should go back to their homeland, Turkey. Same applies to the German Turks. Turkish people give trouble wherever they go to. Please go home.
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Chinese Patriot
written by Brother Xiao Loong , October 18, 2009
It is very strange. Whenever there are people who write in good English or not-bad English to support China, there are people out there who assume that we are paid to write the comments. They can't accept that there are now many Chinese who have mastered the English language. They can't accept that we are proud of our country. They can't accept that we do write pro-China comments on our own free will and are not paid agents of the Chinese government.
I am Chinese. I am proud of my country. I am writing on my own free will. I have taken it upon myself to learn English. In this world, every extra language you can master is advantageous to your career or business. The Uighurs and Tibetans should come to their senses and try to master the Chinese language, and better still master more languages. They will find themselves very marketable, and not have to complain that nobody wants to employ them.
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Please don't bulldoze down the living museum
written by Honky Writer , October 18, 2009
Dear Chinese,
Please do not tear down the living museum in XinJiang and Tibet. We want to see the Uighurs living in their mud houses, their toilets in the hole, their dirty wells and how they can survive drinking the dirty well water. We want to also want to see the Tibetans prostrating themselves before the dalai lama and their monks. We want to have a chance to study the master-serfs system at work, so can you please suspend your communist or capitalist system in Tibet and allow this master-serf system to work for our viewing pleasure? Hey we writers and photographers need some ancient community to study and write about, and take those pictures that we can sell to the magazines back home. Surely you don't want to deprive us of our bread and butter, and hobby? And oh yeah, a big and strong China is not good. See, you guys are starting to make money to have a strong military to protect your land. That is no good. We used to have our warships prowling the South China Sea unchallenged. But now your ships are disturbing our spying activities, and that is a no no. If that is not a threatm then what is? Worse still, you have given the Japs bad ideas. Now the blady new PM of Japan says that Japan wants to be friends with China. See you are causing trouble to us. Japan is supposed to be our ally to contain you, and not supposed to be your friend. Not only that, we used to buy minerals from Africans and pay them peanuts, and we tell them how to behave. Now you Chinese go to Africa and buy from them all these minerals. And you spoil the market by paying them higher prices, and build roads, stadiums and bridges for them. That is really bad for Africa. Now these Africans will have their culture contaminated by modern trappings. Now they will want to live in modern houses and they will forget how to hunt deers and monkeys to survive. See, it is all your fault. But on a brighter note: The Africans used to kill each other after we messed up their borders, and we didn't have anybody to blame. But now we can blame all the violence on China, even though they were fighting long before you guys went there. Our media is global and powerful. We can slant all the news to say it is China's fault.
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Shangri-Allah!
written by Effendi and his donkey , October 17, 2009
This old nonsense of the White Livingstone going round the world to find natives to civilise or to take up their cause is wearing a bit thin..! It is a disease of those who cannot look at themselves but need to project their inner psychological and emotional problems onto some other "object" external of themselves. Unlike the good old East which invariably solve problems by kicking it in the backside, them White folks need to transfer their own internal disturbances onto someone else for whom they vote themselves saviours!

What did some people say about the "New Pacific Century (Sentry?)" when it is planned the whole world should be reproduced in the image of the US of A? How is it done? by wholesale massacre and bombing the innocent back to the Stone Age. The whore idea has gone down the pan - Francis f**kayama eats his own voluminous words without any wasabi and the ungrateful natives of Iraq, Afghanistan vote their unwillingness to be saved by shoving it all up the rear ends of the saviour countries! Aren't we seeing the White man's Black Man sending in more troops to qwell the restless natives who are happily selling off or waiting to sell off their oil to China?

Such is the ingratitude shown them white saviours! Not for China - you get wonderful praises about China from eg Africa and South America and even the Gulf countries for her work in those regions. After all what has the Livingstones and Stanleys and other assorted saviours, do-gooders and so on done for these countries and for centuries! China changes the toilet-door handles and toilet flushes for her "ethnics" and what do you get? A resurrection of our White saviours trying to earn a little living off the backs of some disgruntled natives!

I would worry more about "native Americans" speaking their own lingos, even the Welsh and Irish-speak taught together with Catalan and elevated to the level of English internationally. What we have here is some small-time hack writing the usual piece about a few Uighurs not being able to eat with their left hands and still wanting squatting toilets. The maority of Uighurs are happy with Coca-Cola culture as are the Tibetans and Hans. Even that old moo Kabeya-something while pandering to White folks abroad to get funds for her "cause" has her own family, relatives and other Uighurs slagging her off soundly! I would soon see her as I would the Dollar Lama come back one day soon to kowtow to Beijing for their misbehaviour as the days their White owners are able to continue fund them are rapidly ending. Minor riots the Chinese can handle or better still manhandle.

I would vote the Chinese ("Hans" or whatever "ethnicity") slap down hard those who dare oppose Beijing - those who have their faces wiped on the dirt burying the abundant minerals of Xinjiang would invariably contain those "sponsored" by right-wing Yank organisations if not the CIA or intelligence bodies of the West. I can't wait to see more comedians shoved into kangaroo shelters to have their two bullet's worth in their necks those who chose cold-blooded murder in the name of "freedom" and dramatising to get the attention of their hapless (and useless) White saviours. Them saviours nowadays are getting nowhere, the number of rags willing to hire hacks writing with such bent are dwindling fast. One lawsuit by Old Lee and Mini Lee saw the FEER throw in the tampon! The sponsors are getting nowhere with China either, the last two decades has seen China not giving the panda to any "righteous" rant from any quarters as she pushes into a modernity (or whatever) that is not the White man's Shangorilla, his projection of the kind of "paradise" his pipe-dreams and escapades from his own internal woes should be and built over the heads of the natives all waiting for "Lord Jim's" triumphant return. Looks like it is John Chinaman who is making the return - and all over the world! "New Pacific Century" his yellow rear!

I won't be troubled the least by this or any other two-bit hacks on this site. I find it immensely amusing and only worth my writing in for the old shi-ite-stir that it deserves. I am glad others are doing so too!

Now wash your left hands, Effendis!
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Uighurs are just lazy and want spoon feeding
written by citizen , October 17, 2009
Trouble is that the Uighurs do not want to be treated like Hans. They want a welfare state. In China, Hans face stiff competition in every aspect of their life. Life is tough for Hans. It is a struggle all the way. The Uighurs can't compete. So they want special treatment. Lower grades to get into university. Lower qualifications to get jobs. It is their own laid back culture and attitude that let themselves down. So they should not blame others. They should just get their bums moving to work hard like the Hans. And instead of studying something more marketable in school, their kids spend most of their time studying Islam and Quran and Arabic. And then they wonder why they can't get jobs!
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Han cann't stand anything that is opposite to them: Have a heart and have a life.
written by Florida , October 17, 2009
It's amazingly unbelievable that Han cann't stand anything that's opposite to them and yet they think twhatever they doing is always right. If Uighurs had been treated as Han, China would have had much more stable society, sadly they can't do it. To them, Han is superior than any nation in the world and others must be destroyed. When Japan invaded China many Chineses died, yet still rest were against Japan regardless of death. Uighurs are the same, they know it's gonna take their lives but whatever they do they gonna die after all so do they really have choice? Who is forcing them to do so. You took their land, and now claiming it yours. What's next? Claim the whole world is yours??/China has 2000 thousand years of history but with this idea of yours, you need another 10,000 thousand years to be civilized to learn mankind actually live peacefully togather.
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Peace Prize for bombing the daylights out of the Afghans
written by Bamabanana , October 17, 2009
It is very strange. When China send in their troops to quell violence and wanton killings on the street, the westerners and the misguided banana -men criticized China for being harsh. When Obama send in the US troops and the bombs to blast the Afghans to cinders, he was given a Nobel Prize!!! If the USA and other western nations are really concerned about the breeding of AlQaeda cells, they better lend China a hand to control the uighur militants instead of criticizing China. Don't be surprised the uighurs start sending their suicide squads to create trouble in the USA and Europe. USA dn Europe should be thankful to China for keeping a close grip of these fanatics.
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XinJiang breeding islamic terrorists
written by Scharwz , October 17, 2009
China should really come down hard on those ultra militants uighurs in Xinjiang. Don't pussy foot with them, otherwise the cancer will grow. If XinJiang is to progress, then the uighurs need to abandon their primitive lifestyle and adopt modern approaches. For a start they need to get rid of their imams and other islamic clerics who keep misguiding them to stay primitive like the arabs, and always promoting violence instead. Maybe China should hire some advisers from Israel on hhow to handle these militants.
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How's about a spot of native-bashing, eh?!!!
written by Damn Edna Everidge. OB , October 16, 2009
China should take a banana leaf from the good book of history from the kind folks who lecture her now. Look at how the millions of natives in the "Americas" were slaughtered to make way for the white folks. Look at how the natives ("Abos") of White Australia Fair were wiped out, housed near nuclear testing ground, put into "settlements". Talk about NZ, "French" Polynesia... Think about wholesale removal of the islanders from a homeland offered to the US by the Brits for nuclear testing! Under the same bad breath we hear the brown stuff from the same bunch of people who turn a blind eye to what their lot did (and does).

What about the wholesale massacre of Iraqi and Afghan innocents - vastly fewer than those caught up in the turmoil in China. What do we hear asiasentinel say about the Palestinians, eh?!!!

There's one law from the white men and another for those of another shade!

Does China give a tosh about it all? Hardly!

And rightfully so! Carry on with your pacification, I say!

Won't be a bad idea stringing up a few more rebel rousers and racist murderers (be they "ethnic or Han) to "frighten the monkeys" as the old saying goes! I am happy the first list of names of those going to meet those underaged virgins aren't Han by "race" - China sure is doing its best to wind up a lot of white folks and those with misplaced sentiments.

But be sure China is bound to redress the quota by finding an almost equal bunch of Hans to play to the galley! Let's hope the Chinese would learn from the Israelis about what to do with the organs of those dear departed!

Praise be! Hqallelujah!


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Islam is the problem
written by Rocky , October 16, 2009
Look around the world. Where you find islam, you find backwardness and violence.
The backwardness is self imposed. If people want to remain as dinosaurs, then they should not blame others for their being dinosaurs. The uighurs are the same like all the other muslims elsewhere. Imams in the mosques will preach every friday with shrill voices frightening the daylights out of everybody who listen, and sometimes exhorting violent jihads. They don't preach kindness and compassion, except on rare occasions. So it is not surprising that there is trouble in XinJiang, like all muslim areas all over the world.
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Turks mass migrated to China
written by 2 cent worth , October 16, 2009
The Turks mass migrated to China. Now they want to claim this piece of Chinese soil (XinJiang) as part of Turkey! They want to repay hospitality with treachery! If they like Turkey so much then they should go to Turkey. If not they should be loyal to China and contribute to developing China as loyal Chinese citizens.
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Succession
written by Nuerhaci , October 16, 2009
China invade them? Uighurs didn't "origniate" in Xinjiang. They migrated there. Xinjiang and parts of it was part of the Tang, Yuan and Qing dynasties among others and under internationally recognised principle of succession of states, first the ROC and later the PRC are the internationally recognised successors to the Qing dynasty and all that was the Qing Empire unless there was alternative, mutually accepted settlement. Xinjiang may have declared independence briefly, but where there was insufficient international recognition and agreements, such independence counts for diddly squat.
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People expressing themselves freely
written by Gung - ho , October 16, 2009
How nice to see some healthy debate on Xinjiang beneath this article. If only everybody in the world had this liberty. Maybe along with modernisation of the housing etc there might be a transformation of the way the press works there too. People in Xinjiang would then also be able to contribute to this healthy debate.
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What is the meaning of uprooting culture?
written by 2 cent worth , October 16, 2009
If the westerners are allowed to export the McDonalds and the Gucci culture to China, why can't modern Chinese export modern ways to the backward XinJiang areas? Is introducing modern lifestyles to XinJiang so bad? And what is wrong with the increased use of China's national language to all of China. Don't western countries also insist on the use of their respective countries' national languages? Doesn't USA use English all over the USA? Doesn't UK use English all over UK? Doesn't France use French all over France? etc? And as for the movement of ethnic groups, isn't it natural for any ethnic group to move around the country? Don't white anglo saxons move and settle all over Australia? Don't the whites Americans settle all over the USA? Don't the whites now outnumber the native Hawaiians in Hawaii? Don't the whites now outnumber the native Australians in Australia? Aren't these Australian natives now speaking in English instead of their native language? Aren't the whole of Brazilians expected to speak Portuguese? Aren't the whole lot of Mexicans expected to speak in Spanish instead of in the native languages? Why is there a different standard expected from China? Do the western writers expect China to have ten different national languages instead of one national language?
Don't the western countries bulldoze down crumbling slums to build modern housing? Aren't China allowed to replace old slums with new modern housing?
Western writers can't see the plank in their own eye, but can spot a speck of dust in the Chinese eye.
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Western writers want China to remain as a museum for their amusement
written by One Up , October 16, 2009
Well, it is a entrenched tradition for western writers to prefer to see other countries preserve their unhygienic slums for the western tourists and writers to gawk at for their own amusement. I wonder if these westerners would want to live in such old discrepit slums themselves, instead of in cleaner modern housing. Just imagine, no toilet and sewage system, poor ventilation, no proper roads, no proper foundations to withstand earthquakes. Why doesn't Paul Mozur give up his modern dwelling to stay permanently in those old dirty crumbling houses if he loves them so much.
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Another Westerner with an "Arts" Degree
written by Architect , October 16, 2009
Hmmm, maybe the Chinese govt should simply withdraw the PLA and let the Han and the Uighur kill each other with the Mongolians, the Kazaks, the Uzbeks etc. caught in the middle?

As for knocking down the old quarters, well guess what, it's not just in Xinjiang with the Uighurs, but also in Beijing with the Hutong of the Han Chinese, so cultural discrimination my perfumed rear. If anything, it's discrimination against the old, inefficient and decrepit. Only a modernity-jaded Westerner in search of their imaginary musings and pipe dream perception of Orientalism find romance in unhygenic outhouses and the manual revmoval of human excrement.

The whole of Western China is not only geologically unstable, but to dig under such old neighbourhoods to install modern utilities into such old, structurally unsound old buildings where its often simply one brick on top of another without any foundation is an invitation to further compromise what little structural integrity such buildings may have nevermind the prohibitive cost involve. Similar construction can also be found in neighbouring Pakistan Kashmir, where practically all such buildings collapsed during an earth quake in 2005.

Consequently, this writer was clearly never trained as an architect or a civil engineer as evident by his utter ignorance of the issues involved. So if there is one thing that the Chinese govt is probably guilty of is it's failure to properly inform/market it's objectives to the people of Xinjiang of the need for the demolitions.
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Another Westerner with an "Arts" Degree
written by Architect , October 16, 2009
Hmmm, maybe the Chinese govt should simply withdraw the PLA and let the Han and the Uighur kill each other with the Mongolians, the Kazaks, the Uzbeks etc. caught in the middle?

As for knocking down the old quarters, well guess what, it's not just in Xinjiang with the Uighurs, but also in Beijing with the Hutong of the Han Chinese, so cultural discrimination my perfumed rear. If anything, it's discrimination against the old, inefficient and decrepit. Only a modernity-jaded Westerner in search of their imaginary musings and pipe dream perception of Orientalism find romance in unhygenic outhouses and the manual revmoval of human excrement.

The whole of Western China is not only geologically unstable, but to dig under such old neighbourhoods to install modern utilities into such old, structurally unsound old buildings where its often simply one brick on top of another without any foundation is an invitation to further compromise what little structural integrity such buildings may have nevermind the prohibitive cost involve. Similar construction can also be found in neighbouring Pakistan Kashmir, where practically all such buildings collapsed during an earth quake in 2005.

Consequently, this writer was clearly never trained as an architect or a civil engineer as evident by his utter ignorance of the issues involved. So if there is one thing that the Chinese govt is probably guilty of is it's failure to properly inform/market it's objectives to the people of Xinjiang of the need for the demolitions.
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A very interesting article
written by Stickler , October 15, 2009
This article is very interesting. However I fail to understand Movemountains little tirade. He/ she would seem to have contradicted themselves somewhat.
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Whites Decimate Aboriginal/Native Indian Cultures & Souls
written by Movemountain , October 15, 2009
This article sounds more like a fabled British 007 or the self-gratified American Rambo espionage saga behind enemy line than a truth-seeking documentary with only one mischievous/malicious objective:to smear the Chinese Govt & also the Han Chinese as savaged oppressors in a land perceived as conquered from a persecuted/helpless race. Since when have the white men become so sympathetic to the Muslim cause when they are partners to the slaughter of Muslims in Gaza/Palestine? Those Muslim martyls who sacrificed their precious lives to bring down the Twin Towers would have had to shake their heads in utter disbelief/confusion at their graves as to whether they might afterall have gotten their real blood enemies wrong if they were to be made to believe what is written here by this 'Alice-in-wonderland' story!

If you Paul Mozur can go to such length in sensationalising this so-called Uighur suffering, we can, in similar light, do the same with the Aboriginal people in the Outback of Australia or the native Indians in the various reservations in Uncle Sam's backyard. It definitely is blood arousing & shall earn a lot of applause & more so plenty of publication sponsors/fees, but need Chinese stoop so low to play this dirty game? Come on, perhaps we have got better things to do building the 21st century & use our money to stuff them up your arse as it is certainly a far more exciting pastime!
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